Wednesday, July 29, 2015 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

[billiej]

So...I take it "Who wrote the Thorn Birds?" would NOT be accepted?

[TenPoundHammer]

No, I did not have the chance to notice it. (This is not a complaint. This is so rare in Los Angeles that I always picture someone at the station having to blow the dust off an instruction manual when they need to do one of these.)

Yeah, it's been a strange summer in Southern California.

It never rains in California / But girl, don't they warn you / It pours, man it pours…

[Silverfox]

While the current corporate franchise of the Washington Nationals has never won a World Series, there was a different Washington Nationals that did win a World Series and their flag flies in Washington, D.C. at Nationals Park.

That would be for the Washington Senators (that eventually became the Minnesota Twins, not to be confused with the Washington Senators that later became the Texas Rangers).

It seems that Washington has a hard time keeping its' senators in town.

[alietr]

As long as we're discussing the Rockies, Coors Field has a particularly neat feature -- the seats are dark green, but the seats in the 20th row of the upper deck are purple -- those seats are at an elevation of 5,280'.

[This Is Kirk!]

It seems that Washington has a hard time keeping its' senators in town.

Another sighting of the elusive its'!

[nklotz]

As long as we're discussing the Rockies, Coors Field has a particularly neat feature -- the seats are dark green, but the seats in the 20th row of the upper deck are purple -- those seats are at an elevation of 5,280'.

Definitely one of my favorite ballparks (up there with Wrigley and AT&T) and has an incredible view of the Rockies. You can see the purple seats here:

Spoiler

[opusthepenguin]

It seems that Washington has a hard time keeping its' senators in town.

That reminds me, tangentially, about when they announced that the new team would be called the Nationals. I thought then and think now that the Washington Insiders would have been the perfect choice. And they could have had a mascot called the Wonk.

It's sad when people pass up perfect opportunities because they take themselves too seriously.

[ACW]

$200...is that the smallest amount a winner's had?

Technically, for any final score of $1000 or less you don't get to be called a "winner". You're just a "contestant who gets another try".

Okay, have there been any "contestant who gets another try" with less than $200?

[Vermonter]

Here are winning totals ≤$1,000

$1 – Darryl Scott, 1/19/93
$100 – Larry Thompson, 12/23/97
$200 – Dan Pawson, 1/4/08
$200 – Colby Potter, 7/29/15
$255 – Murtaza Sutarwalla, 1/24/08
$300 – Bea Cottrell, 12/25/87
$399 – Melizza Zygmunt, 10/13/98
$400 – Anne Reynolds, 9/3/01
$599 – Pam Wells, 4/23/86
$599 – Susan Mitchell, 6/8/07
$599 – Jean Cui, 4/30/09
$600 – Steve Cunningham, 5/27/96
$600 – Christine Black, 3/15/06
$700 – Addison Goodson, 9/29/93 (thanks, seaborgium!)
$700 – Jeff Grimes, 3/18/99
$799 – Deborah Hummel, 3/1/90
$799 – Anna Rodriguez, 1/10/08
$800 – Patrick McGeehan, 10/6/95
$800 – Marc Hirsh, 1/5/00
$800 – Paul Glaser, 10/31/07
$800 – Baltazar Pinedo, 6/8/09
$900 – Lynn Strather, 9/20/84
$1,000 – Daniel Elias, 12/4/84
$1,000 – Christian Stallsmith, 4/1/97

[Volante]

Here are winning totals ≤$1,000

06-09 seem to be overly represented.

[dhkendall]

Here are winning totals ≤$1,000

$1 – Darryl Scott, 1/19/93
$100 – Larry Thompson, 12/23/97
$200 – Dan Pawson, 1/4/08
$200 – Colby Potter, 7/29/15
$255 – Murtaza Sutarwalla, 1/24/08
$300 – Bea Cottrell, 12/25/87
$399 – Melizza Zygmunt, 10/13/98
$400 – Anne Reynolds, 9/3/01
$599 – Pam Wells, 4/23/86
$599 – Susan Mitchell, 6/8/07
$599 – Jean Cui, 4/30/09
$600 – Steve Cunningham, 5/27/96
$600 – Christine Black, 3/15/06
$700 – Jeff Grimes, 3/18/99
$799 – Deborah Hummel, 3/1/90
$799 – Anna Rodriguez, 1/10/08
$800 – Patrick McGeehan, 10/6/95
$800 – Marc Hirsh, 1/5/00
$800 – Paul Glaser, 10/31/07
$800 – Baltazar Pinedo, 6/8/09
$900 – Lynn Strather, 9/20/84
$1,000 – Daniel Elias, 12/4/84
$1,000 – Christian Stallsmith, 4/1/97

Figured you'd have these numbers handy. I wonder how many of these went on to win more obey (like Dan) or had that as their entire winnings (plus prize or cash for second or third)

[ACW]

Thanks Vermonter ($1? Wow ).
What happens if all 3 tie at $0?

[DBear]

No one comes back, three new challengers. That happened the second episode of the first season.
Also happed 2/7/2013 during a teen tournament semifinal. No one advanced from that group.

[legendneverdies]

No one comes back, three new challengers. That happened the second episode of the first season.
Also happed 2/7/2013 during a teen tournament semifinal. No one advanced from that group.

ISTR it was reported again they'll do a tiebreaker clue if a three way tie on zero happens again during a tourney semis. Which of course shouldn't happen again.

[OrangeSAM]

Here are winning totals ≤$1,000

$1 – Darryl Scott, 1/19/93
$100 – Larry Thompson, 12/23/97
$200 – Dan Pawson, 1/4/08
$200 – Colby Potter, 7/29/15
$255 – Murtaza Sutarwalla, 1/24/08
$300 – Bea Cottrell, 12/25/87
$399 – Melizza Zygmunt, 10/13/98
$400 – Anne Reynolds, 9/3/01
$599 – Pam Wells, 4/23/86
$599 – Susan Mitchell, 6/8/07
$599 – Jean Cui, 4/30/09
$600 – Steve Cunningham, 5/27/96
$600 – Christine Black, 3/15/06
$700 – Jeff Grimes, 3/18/99
$799 – Deborah Hummel, 3/1/90
$799 – Anna Rodriguez, 1/10/08
$800 – Patrick McGeehan, 10/6/95
$800 – Marc Hirsh, 1/5/00
$800 – Paul Glaser, 10/31/07
$800 – Baltazar Pinedo, 6/8/09
$900 – Lynn Strather, 9/20/84
$1,000 – Daniel Elias, 12/4/84
$1,000 – Christian Stallsmith, 4/1/97

Interesting distribution.

Decade 1: 6
Decade 2: 8
Decade 3: 8
Decade 4: 1

You might've thought there'd be more from the pre-double era.

[The Talking Mime]

Here are winning totals ≤$1,000

$1 – Darryl Scott, 1/19/93
$100 – Larry Thompson, 12/23/97
$200 – Dan Pawson, 1/4/08
$200 – Colby Potter, 7/29/15
$255 – Murtaza Sutarwalla, 1/24/08
$300 – Bea Cottrell, 12/25/87
$399 – Melizza Zygmunt, 10/13/98
$400 – Anne Reynolds, 9/3/01
$599 – Pam Wells, 4/23/86
$599 – Susan Mitchell, 6/8/07
$599 – Jean Cui, 4/30/09
$600 – Steve Cunningham, 5/27/96
$600 – Christine Black, 3/15/06
$700 – Jeff Grimes, 3/18/99
$799 – Deborah Hummel, 3/1/90
$799 – Anna Rodriguez, 1/10/08
$800 – Patrick McGeehan, 10/6/95
$800 – Marc Hirsh, 1/5/00
$800 – Paul Glaser, 10/31/07
$800 – Baltazar Pinedo, 6/8/09
$900 – Lynn Strather, 9/20/84
$1,000 – Daniel Elias, 12/4/84
$1,000 – Christian Stallsmith, 4/1/97

There's another one you can add to the list: 4/22/88. Jeff Brown won that game with only $200 (That game in particular isn't in the Archive, but the next game on 4/25 is and he's introduced as champ with that amount).

[seaborgium]

Here are winning totals ≤$1,000

$1 – Darryl Scott, 1/19/93
$100 – Larry Thompson, 12/23/97
$200 – Dan Pawson, 1/4/08
$200 – Colby Potter, 7/29/15
$255 – Murtaza Sutarwalla, 1/24/08
$300 – Bea Cottrell, 12/25/87
$399 – Melizza Zygmunt, 10/13/98
$400 – Anne Reynolds, 9/3/01
$599 – Pam Wells, 4/23/86
$599 – Susan Mitchell, 6/8/07
$599 – Jean Cui, 4/30/09
$600 – Steve Cunningham, 5/27/96
$600 – Christine Black, 3/15/06
$700 – Jeff Grimes, 3/18/99
$799 – Deborah Hummel, 3/1/90
$799 – Anna Rodriguez, 1/10/08
$800 – Patrick McGeehan, 10/6/95
$800 – Marc Hirsh, 1/5/00
$800 – Paul Glaser, 10/31/07
$800 – Baltazar Pinedo, 6/8/09
$900 – Lynn Strather, 9/20/84
$1,000 – Daniel Elias, 12/4/84
$1,000 – Christian Stallsmith, 4/1/97

Interesting distribution.

Decade 1: 6
Decade 2: 8
Decade 3: 8
Decade 4: 1

You might've thought there'd be more from the pre-double era.

The pre-double era is more sparsely represented in the Archive. Here are a few ToCers who have done it in unarchived games.

Steve Rogitz game 5: $800
Stephen Lebowitz game 4: $100*
Cathy Boggs game 4: $100

*Stephen Lebowitz won his $100 tied with Jimmie Bucci. They both lost the following game, so Jimmie's $100 is the lowest amount ever taken home by a J! champion.

edit: two more non-ToC low winners. Steven Rapkin has been cited as a champ who won $101 (I vaguely remember seeing this, I think). And last year, in the "new old" thread, rmfromfla helped confirm a memory I had of a man named Addison who had dreadlocks and won small: Addison Goodson won $700 in 1993.

edit again: it took someone quoting me for me to notice I'd spelled Lebowitz two different ways. I hate when that happens (noticing my error when I'm quoted, I mean).

[trainman]

That reminds me, tangentially, about when they announced that the new team would be called the Nationals. I thought then and think now that the Washington Insiders would have been the perfect choice. And they could have had a mascot called the Wonk.

My suggestion would have been The Fat Cats of Washington.

[buckeyebrain]

Thanks Vermonter ($1? Wow ).
What happens if all 3 tie at $0?

Then they're all gone and the next game starts with three fresh contestants. This happened in the second Trebek episode in 1984 when all three bombed FJ! with all-in bets.

"Zero Is Never A Winning Score."

[Woppy T]

Thanks Vermonter ($1? Wow ).
What happens if all 3 tie at $0?

Then they're all gone and the next game starts with three fresh contestants. This happened in the second Trebek episode in 1984 when all three bombed FJ! with all-in bets.

"Zero Is Never A Winning Score."

It also happened in this game, which I will never forget because my optometrist was one of the contestants.
http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=396