New old games in the J! Archive

[Robert K S]

It still amazes me to remember that I lived in a time when we could open up the comics page and see a new Calvin and Hobbes AND a new Far Side AND a new Bloom County. Every day. Also a new Peanuts.

Hear, hear. Add to these a number of other strips that were likewise past their primes but nonetheless offered occasional grins: Beetle Bailey, Wizard of Id, B.C., Hi & Lois, Blondie, Funky Winkerbean, and Crankshaft are the ones I remember with varying levels of fondness. Some of these strips may still exist, perhaps, but I haven't laid eyes on any of them in over a decade, except via the occasional visit to Comics Curmudgeon.

[trainman]

I never knew whether The Daily Bruin paid big bucks for the strip or negotiated a fee reduction, perhaps with Breathed's approval.

The amount newspapers pay for a comic strip is based on circulation (although there probably was a discount for the Daily Bruin being a student newspaper).

Hear, hear. Add to these a number of other strips that were likewise past their primes but nonetheless offered occasional grins: Beetle Bailey, Wizard of Id, B.C., Hi & Lois, Blondie, Funky Winkerbean, and Crankshaft are the ones I remember with varying levels of fondness. Some of these strips may still exist, perhaps, but I haven't laid eyes on any of them in over a decade, except via the occasional visit to Comics Curmudgeon.

Those are all still running except "Funky Winkerbean."

In the past few years, some "legacy" strips have been revived and vastly improved via the syndicate finding new artists or writer/artist teams to take over -- "Nancy," "Judge Parker," "Mark Trail," and "Alley Oop" come to mind. Some of the strips you mentioned could probably benefit from that treatment... except that they're still in the hands of family members of the original creators, who are loath to give up the cash cow.

[AndyTheQuizzer]

Courtesy the Frazee Tapes, 1991-11-18: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8642

Andrea Diamond, Greg Whimpey, John McGill

Missing intros & prizes, but we do have a full complement of clues.

Things got really interesting after DJ18.

No way that pronunciation on DJ23 gets accepted today.

[MarkBarrett]

Courtesy the Frazee Tapes, 1991-11-19: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8644

Deborah Caruso, Josh Vincent, John McGill

The FJ! clue title went TS in the UTOC and seems to have been retired since then. Nice solve by Josh to get his streak going.

It's been previously mentioned that Senterfitt and John Kelly are the 2 ToCers without a regular play game in the Archive. With Josh now in what is the missing count for 4xers (even if not a ToCer)?

DJ6, DJ14 & DJ15 reminded me of future FJ! clues.

[AndyTheQuizzer]

It's been previously mentioned that Senterfitt and John Kelly are the 2 ToCers without a regular play game in the Archive. With Josh now in what is the missing count for 4xers (even if not a ToCer)?

I'm 99% certain that those are the only two 4- or 5-time champions without some regular play in the Archive.

(Edit to add: The only gap we have that would fit a 4-time champion that we don't know about would be if there had a 4-time winner with a very low total in early June of 1989. Thus, being that it would require a very specific set of very unlikely circumstances, I think we're probably safe to assume that Walt Senterfitt and John Kelly are currently the only two players with 4 or more wins that do not have a regular-play game in the Archive.)

[AndyTheQuizzer]

Courtesy the Frazee Tapes, 1991-11-21: https://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8646

Lee Pellegrino-Gensey, Alan Byrne, Josh Vincent

This one went until DJ30 before we saw a Triple Stumper. So close.

[MarkBarrett]

Courtesy the Frazee Tapes, 1991-11-20: https://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8645

Sam Abloeser, Andy Berm, Josh Vincent #2

30+ years later I bet Andy B. cusses every time he hears the correct response for the FJ! Round. At least the wager was on target.

J17 was funny and I replayed it a couple of times.

Andy archivist: Feel free to archive the other Josh games if your time allows through today and tomorrow.

[MinnesotaMyron]

https://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7256

And what I have of Kirk Ditzler Game 3 is done, vs. David Green and Mike something, November 27, 1991.

We welcome to the J-Canon in the category NURSERY RHYMES the poem "Queen Anne's Lace" by Mary Leslie Newton. It was a Daily Double with "lace" as a TOM, you had to name the queen. Very tricky.

Also new to the J-Canon, Jaclyn Smith's perfume "California", which looks to be discontinued, but throw it on a flashcard anyway, what the hell!

The Daily Double in Single Jeopardy was one of the clues in the first segment, which we don't have. I hate when that happens.

Clue of the game will be MAMMALS for $1000, a fact which last showed up in 2006. Due for a comeback, I'd say.

The smallest of these mammals is the Kitti's hog-nosed or bumblebee species

Spoiler

What is a bat?

Have a good night.

Thanks to the Frazee tapes, this game is now complete. "Mike something" is Mike Kennedy, and Alex was kind enough to give full occupations and hometowns during the interviews, so the missing intro doesn't matter too much.

The PEANUTS category was just called that, with no underlining or anything. And the fifth category might have been called ODDS & ENDS, but look carefully and perhaps you WOOD call it something else.

[AndyTheQuizzer]

Courtesy the Frazee tapes, 1991-11-22: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8647

Craig Ryan, Ted Cockley, Josh Vincent #4

This one was missing the intros & the prizes.

[AndyTheQuizzer]

Courtesy the Frazee Tapes, 1991-11-25: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8648

Todd Gander, Kirk Ditzler #1, Josh Vincent #5

Todd for SCT '92.

[MarkBarrett]

Courtesy the Frazee Tapes, 1991-11-25: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8648

Todd Gander, Kirk Ditzler #1, Josh Vincent #5

Todd for SCT '92.

Yeah, J30 would cost players a round with a green on every clue.

[seaborgium]

And there it is! (But I forgot about the quotation marks in "WITH")

I remember a board around 1990 whose right side comprised the categories DANCES, WITH, and WOLVES.

[MinnesotaMyron]

Courtesy the Frazee Tapes, 1991-11-25: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8648

Todd Gander, Kirk Ditzler #1, Josh Vincent #5

Todd for SCT '92.

Yeah, J30 would cost players a round with a green on every clue.

I assume you mean the clue at the bottom right side of the board, since the players got J30 correct. I would have known this at the time (thanks to Mad Magazine), but no way I get it in 2023. Of course, we welcome him to the J-Canon either way.

[MarkBarrett]

Courtesy the Frazee Tapes, 1991-11-25: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8648

Todd Gander, Kirk Ditzler #1, Josh Vincent #5

Todd for SCT '92.

Yeah, J30 would cost players a round with a green on every clue.

I assume you mean the clue at the bottom right side of the board, since the players got J30 correct. I would have known this at the time (thanks to Mad Magazine), but no way I get it in 2023. Of course, we welcome him to the J-Canon either way.

Right, J15 at 6th category, last clue. That one, yeah.

[AndyTheQuizzer]

https://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7256

And what I have of Kirk Ditzler Game 3 is done, vs. David Green and Mike something, November 27, 1991.

We welcome to the J-Canon in the category NURSERY RHYMES the poem "Queen Anne's Lace" by Mary Leslie Newton. It was a Daily Double with "lace" as a TOM, you had to name the queen. Very tricky.

Also new to the J-Canon, Jaclyn Smith's perfume "California", which looks to be discontinued, but throw it on a flashcard anyway, what the hell!

The Daily Double in Single Jeopardy was one of the clues in the first segment, which we don't have. I hate when that happens.

Clue of the game will be MAMMALS for $1000, a fact which last showed up in 2006. Due for a comeback, I'd say.

The smallest of these mammals is the Kitti's hog-nosed or bumblebee species

Spoiler

What is a bat?

Have a good night.

Thanks to the Frazee tapes, this game is now complete. "Mike something" is Mike Kennedy, and Alex was kind enough to give full occupations and hometowns during the interviews, so the missing intro doesn't matter too much.

The PEANUTS category was just called that, with no underlining or anything. And the fifth category might have been called ODDS & ENDS, but look carefully and perhaps you WOOD call it something else.

To RKS: I've put a copy of the video Daily Double capture in the usual spot for you to grab.

[finishemzoe]

Courtesy the Frazee Tapes, 1991-11-25: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8648

Todd Gander, Kirk Ditzler #1, Josh Vincent #5

Todd for SCT '92.

Wow, what an insane game. You have to wonder how many people were calling for a Second Chance Competition back then just to be ignored for three more decades.

[AndyTheQuizzer]

Courtesy the Frazee Tapes, 1991-12-02: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8651

Ed Peterson, Jim Bresette, Elizabeth Pearce

This one's missing a few things before it can get into the Complete pile.

[AndyTheQuizzer]

Courtesy the Frazee Tapes, 1991-12-03: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8652

Steve Firkser, David Cohen, Elizabeth Pearce

0 for 2 on the Daily Doubles didn't stop Steve from pulling out a win.

[Ivoryface86]

I have 2 questions about the episodes archives recently:
1) Did the November 18, 1991 episode still have the flashing blue-red-white flashing letters regardless of the backwall color as seen in the "White Men Can't Jump" movie?
2) Regarding the December 23, 1992 episode as well as all other episodes that week including Day 1 of John Mahoney's run, were these the first regular episodes to use new camera angle shots as seen in the inaugural Celebrity Tournament and the 1992 ToC? In other words, the first chosen non-Daily Double clue of the segment is seen chroma-key instead of being zoomed-up.

[AndyTheQuizzer]

Thanks to the Frazee tapes, 1997-03-05 (#2888) is in: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8663

Sandy Stephenson, Brad Rosenstein, Jim Diggins

This one was missing intros & prizes

Curious betting in FJ, for sure.