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In-camera zoom-ups of the first clue continued through #1925. The composited clue zoom on the first clue began with #1926.

In both #1925 and #1926, the post-Final-clue shot was a crane-mounted wide shot from the perspective of the game board looking toward the contestants and craning in over the contestants, looking directly down on them as they wrote. The lights dimmed shortly after the shot switched from the Final clue screen. I don't find this shot to differ in any material respect from the one in #1911, except for the initial position of the camera crane, which started from the opposite side of the set.
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Kudos to all of you for helping especially for Erick Dye-Cain and Trevor. It pays to actually have GSN when those weeks were rerun there to see the differences.
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Courtesy games shared with Archivists, 1992-12-22: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8678

Laurie Breen, Michael Grider, Victoria Bassetti

Not sure if I formatted Michael's occupation right.

This game easily has one of the weirdest game dynamic graphs ever. Victoria picked up 20R 0W in the J! Round, 2R 1W in DJ—and 0R over the last 26 clues. No matter, though, still had a runaway.

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AndyTheQuizzer wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:07 am still had a runaway.
She wouldn't have had a lock (or the lead) if Michael had converted the PAPER $800 DD--but she still would have won.
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Courtesy games shared with Archivists, 1992-12-24: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8679

Ann Kleese, Brigid Smith, Joe Santora, Jr.

DJ was a *mess*.

It took 7 clues and finding a Daily Double to remove money from an incorrect response on DJ7.

Alex explains the '90s-era rules on rebounding an incorrect first name on DJ20.

Don't show DJ29 to the "Alex would NEVER" crowd.

Nobody bet this FJ properly—especially for a pre-2014 game.

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AndyTheQuizzer wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:16 am Don't show DJ29 to the "Alex would NEVER" crowd.
I think the problem there was Alex should have given a BMS.
AndyTheQuizzer wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:16 am Alex explains the '90s-era rules on rebounding an incorrect first name on DJ20.
When Alex says that contestants normally do not need to give a last name (I double-checked--that's what he said), I think he meant contestants normally do not need to give a first name.

Is the rule as Alex articulated it different today?
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Robert K S wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:24 am
AndyTheQuizzer wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:16 am Don't show DJ29 to the "Alex would NEVER" crowd.
I think the problem there was Alex should have given a BMS.
AndyTheQuizzer wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:16 am Alex explains the '90s-era rules on rebounding an incorrect first name on DJ20.
When Alex says that contestants normally do not need to give a last name (I double-checked--that's what he said), I think he meant contestants normally do not need to give a first name.

Is the rule as Alex articulated it different today?
- Regarding the first name/last name thing, he clarified before Final.

- I thought there was a recent case where a contestant has successfully responded with just a last name after an opponent has given an incorrect first name.

(ETA: thanks to mfc248, DJ13 in this game: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7348)
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Show #1917, aired 1992-12-29
https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8680

In the TV category at J!14 just before the break, Jon gave the ZIP code of Hawthorne, California, which is quite a bit south of Beverly Hills and very northeast of Laguna Niguel.

At the beginning of Double Jeopardy!, with Ken and Jon tied and Ken at the middle position closer to the host, Jon selected the first clue, with no explanation given.

Show #1918, aired 1992-12-30
https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8681

Alex was delighted to detect a "very slight" English accent in Theresa as she hit the Daily Double in the category LONDON. She called the palace "St. James" (and was ruled correct without remark) even though I usually see it given as "St. James's".

J!15: My first thought was, "I guess Jeopardy! follows the Air Bud rule." Then I remembered the match that made this clue obsolete.

J!20: I've been complaining about the word "and" being used instead of the ampersand with irregular frequency in primetime Celebrity Jeopardy! clues, but here's an example where it showed up in a regular-play clue.

At the conclusion of the interview segment, Alex turned upstage to XYZ, after champ Jack told a tale of noticing his fly was down and making theatric of zipping it up during a turn on stage as Felix Unger in The Odd Couple.

DD at DJ!7: "He was the last of 3 presidents to serve in 1881". Jack knew it without batting an eye.

Jack went on a tear in DJ!; Theresa very nearly broke Jack's lock at the close of the round, but Jack picked up a very much needed $1,000 clue. Well, maybe not that much needed, given the TS Final results. The way Fred and Theresa's Final wagers worked out, Fred eked out the 2nd place prize bedroom set, $101 to her $100.

This completes Jack Mahoney's original 5. He later made the semis of the '93 ToC.
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Robert K S wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 12:14 pm Show #1918, aired 1992-12-30
https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8681
DJ8 is clue #515,000.
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Courtesy games shared with Archivists, 1993-02-01: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8682

Barbara Sontz, Emily Zehmer, Ira Goodkofsky

Yeah, that was 3 newbies after a 5xer type game.

Archivists: Please take a look at & a listen to Emily in the FJ! round as I am not sure how close or far away I am from having it right.
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MarkBarrett wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:07 pm Archivists: Please take a look at & a listen to Emily in the FJ! round as I am not sure how close or far away I am from having it right.
I see and hear a G, not a D. Will submit a correction suggestion.

I can't find anything on Google to corroborate Emily's understanding (or her spelling), and neither can ChatGPT, for that matter, but that's not neither here nor there.
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Robert K S wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:52 pm
MarkBarrett wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:07 pm Archivists: Please take a look at & a listen to Emily in the FJ! round as I am not sure how close or far away I am from having it right.
I see and hear a G, not a D. Will submit a correction suggestion.

I can't find anything on Google to corroborate Emily's understanding (or her spelling), and neither can ChatGPT, for that matter, but that's not neither here nor there.
Accepted, thanks.
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The OED has "galley" as a type of fish, but the word is obsolete and not of Native American nor Indian-Asian origin. Skelley reminds me of "scaly", which could describe a fish, especially a white or glistening one. But nothing conclusive.
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Courtesy games shared with Archivists, #1920, 1993-01-01: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8683

Mike Griffin, Anita Stork, Rudy Tjiptahadi
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Courtesy games shared with Archivists, #1923, 1993-01-06: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8684

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Courtesy games shared with Archivists, #1924, 1993-01-07: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8687

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Courtesy games shared with Archivists, #1946, 1993-02-08: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8688

Hank Chambers, Krista Huckabone, Phil Klinkner
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Courtesy games shared with Archivists, #1961, 1993-03-01: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8686

Bill Roche, Robin Leidner, Susie Macksey.
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Courtesy games shared with Archivists, #1962, 1993-03-02: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8689

Mark Gozonsky, Donna Radu, Robin Leidner
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AndyTheQuizzer wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:51 am Courtesy games shared with Archivists, #1961, 1993-03-01: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=8686

Bill Roche, Robin Leidner, Susie Macksey.
I wasn't going to miss that Final.

I like the idea of "Aakron", though.

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