Masters Tuesday, May 9, 2023 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

[Archivists]

Game 1 J! Round

[Archivists]

Game 1 DJ! Round

[Archivists]

Game 2 J! Round

[Archivists]

Game 2 DJ! Round

[theFJguy]

Game 1:

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
21ST CENTURY AUTHORS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Once a journalist himself, he began his first novel with his hero being fined 150,000 kronor for aggravated libel

Sam Buttrey 17600-15201=2399 (0 points)
Amy Schneider 11200+6500=17700 (1 point)
Mattea Roach 16400+6001=22401 (3 points)

Correct response:

Spoiler

Who is Stieg Larsson? (Sam - Who is Johannson Stiegler)

Daily Doubles
Amy: 2400+2400
Mattea: 4400+4400
Sam: 7200+7200

Coryats:
Sam: 12400
Amy: 9800
Mattea: 13200

Combined: 35,400

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Sam: 4000
Amy: 6000
Mattea: 2800

Game 2:

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
WESTERN HEMISPHERE HISTORY

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
In 1915 the assassination of President Sam brought Uncle Sam to this country, beginning a 19-year military occupation

Andrew He 9600-0=9600 (1 point)
James Holzhauer 28400-28400=0 (0 points)
Matt Amodio 28400-1000=27400 (3 points)

Correct response:

Spoiler

What is Haiti? (Andrew - What is baby we got a game goin') (James - What is Haiti Nicaragua?) (Matt - What Nicaragua?)

Daily Doubles
Matt: 2600+2600
Matt: 13200+13200
James: 10400+10400

Coryats:
Andrew: 9600
James: 19600
Matt: 14200

Combined: 43,400

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Andrew: 5200
James: 7600
Matt: 6800

[floridagator]

Interesting that Gideon V Wainwright came up in the first game and Fay Wray came up in the second. Fay Wray's last credit was playing Gideon's landlady in "Gideon's Trumpet," starring Henry Fonda. She was almost the only woman in the movie.

And Henry Fonda's daughter also came up in the second game.

[squarekara]

Sam is hilarious! #1 in our hearts.

[Golf]

Game 1, Amy showing she has not worked on strategy as her FJ wager was not good and her DJ DD wager left much to be desired. Against this level of competition you just can't give away huge chunks of winning percentage.

Game 2, Matt's FJ wager will be discussed for some time. Immediately upon seeing it I uttered a few unprintable choice words related to cats and willows. But this is a multi-game total point affair, and his wager guaranteed 1 point minimum. I'm not saying I like it, but it might not be as bad as initially thought. I'll probably run the numbers in the next day or two on average number of points earned comparing this wager to the standard all in.


FJguy, I believe you need to double-check the game 2 DD3 info.

[Linear Gnome]

I think it's tragic that the Museum of Broken Relationships isn't in Split, Croatia.

[theFJguy]

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FJguy, I believe you need to double-check the game 2 DD3 info.

DD3 fixed, thanks.

[MarkBarrett]

That had to be the one combo where Hickey's play goes TS? The Hogan's Heroes clue I could see causing the problem it did, but the play title?

There was no doubt that when Sam called Ken, KJ, that Ken would come back with SB.

The FJ! clue had me pleased to figure it out. Currency to country. Author? Oh, that guy. Name? Dug it up with time to spare.

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Before the game began I enjoyed the shot of the guys at the museum looking at the Emmys in the display case.

RHYMINGLY NAMED CELEBS did not have a two-name requirement to it, so it was a funny moment when the nickname was enough for the NBA guy.

Ken's quip about the gentlemen even knowing Reese's coffee order was funny.

None chance for me on the FJ! clue as I did not even know which continent might have the place.

There was no doubt whatsoever that James was going to be it all. It worked out well for Matt to get 3 points with the lower wager and ouch for James walking away with 0 on a crossout going the wrong way. Andrew (quite pedestrian when he doesn't play DDs) got run over and still escaped with a point.

The DD placement for the DJ! round was nasty with nothing in LITERATURE and I did not mind knowing where DD2 & DD3 were hiding as the guys tried to hunt them down.

Time will tell if the material gets harder as the games go along. Each player has settled in and played twice to get the feel for coming back.

[jeff6286]

Game 1, Amy showing she has not worked on strategy as her FJ wager was not good and her DJ DD wager left much to be desired. Against this level of competition you just can't give away huge chunks of winning percentage.

Game 2, Matt's FJ wager will be discussed for some time. Immediately upon seeing it I uttered a few unprintable choice words related to cats and willows. But this is a multi-game total point affair, and his wager guaranteed 1 point minimum. I'm not saying I like it, but it might not be as bad as initially thought. I'll probably run the numbers in the next day or two on average number of points earned comparing this wager to the standard all in.

I was shocked at first to see the low wager from Matt but thinking about it more, maybe he figures he's unlikely to beat James on FJ (James was 97% on FJ in his original run) or on a tiebreaker buzz, (James was 56% on the buzzer to Matt's 33% in this game.) So maybe roll the dice and hope this is a brutal FJ and he can win it that way. It's a bold move and could have easily backfired but on this occasion it worked out for him.

Interestingly this is the second time James has missed FJ by crossing out the correct response. It also happened in the TOC SF: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6465

With little knowledge of anything being referenced here I managed to stumble into the right answer, mostly on the way Ken pronounced "Sam" in the name of the Haitian President, it occurred to me that it sounded a bit more French than Spanish and maybe Haiti was the way to go.

On the other FJ I'm curious if Sam had the right person in mind but couldn't get all the syllables in his name lined up. JOHANNSON STIEGLER contains most of STIEG LARSSON it's just been thrown in a blender.

Overall, great work by Matt and Mattea, each coming back from a rough opening game to earn a well-deserved win. Sam is now the one most desperate for a win and he's got James and Amy up next, no easy task.

I have plenty of quibbles with this tournament as far as the format and who was chosen but the games have certainly been fun to watch!

[Category 13]

Game 1, Amy showing she has not worked on strategy as her FJ wager was not good

Yeah, I was gonna say.... She also demonstrated no serious grasp of her opponents' wagering history. Did she really believe Sam might wager zero in that situation? I would expect to see James wager less than 800 in that spot.

Mattea is my least favorite of the tournament, but at least she knew how to wager.

[Robert K S]

I miss the reverent silence going into Final.

Instead, the audience has been instructed to applaud, or canned applause has been inserted in post.

Also, TIL George Plympton and George Plimpton were different people. And that Bobby Jones and Robert Trent Jones were different people.

IANAL--well, not a trial one, anyway--but I didn't like the clue "You can ask for one of these if you wish to delay a trial, but it can also refer to just going on with the trial". It would be way confusing to use the jargon word "continuance" to mean anything other than temporary stoppage of proceedings.

It's interesting what makes a difference in a game and what doesn't. James's confusing Rembrandt and Van Gogh for a 4,000 point swing had no effect on the outcome for him whatsoever.

[Pendleton71]

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FJguy, I believe you need to double-check the game 2 DD3 info.

DD3 fixed, thanks.

I believe the Game 1 info needs to be checked too, didn’t Mattea and Sam find the DJ DDs and go all in?

[squarekara]

Game 2:
FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
WESTERN HEMISPHERE HISTORY
FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
In 1915 the assassination of President Sam brought Uncle Sam to this country, beginning a 19-year military occupation
Andrew He 9600-0=9600 (1 point)
James Holzhauer 28400-28400=0 (0 points)
Matt Amodio 28400-1000=27400 (3 points)
Correct response:

Spoiler

What is Haiti? (Andrew - What is baby we got a game goin') (James - What is Haiti Nicaragua?) (Matt - What Nicaragua?)

Daily Doubles

Spoiler

In the wacky spirit of these games, can we note that Andrew had "stew" crossed out as part of his response and made a "stirring the pot" gesture upon the reveal?

[Robert K S]

What was the significance of that? In-joke?

[squarekara]

What was the significance of that? In-joke?

Do dish, somebody.

[LucarioSnooperVixey]

Game 1:

Was not getting the Hogan's Heroes character. Missed a few clues in TV. Missed Editors $1200 and the Bottom Two in Dianne Warren.
DD: 3/3
FJ:

Game 2:

57 R (Also negged with Greta Thunberg. Missed Rhymingly Named Celebrities $1200 & $1600.)
DD: 3/3
FJ:

[This Is Kirk!]

Game 1, Amy showing she has not worked on strategy as her FJ wager was not good and her DJ DD wager left much to be desired. Against this level of competition you just can't give away huge chunks of winning percentage.

Game 2, Matt's FJ wager will be discussed for some time. Immediately upon seeing it I uttered a few unprintable choice words related to cats and willows. But this is a multi-game total point affair, and his wager guaranteed 1 point minimum. I'm not saying I like it, but it might not be as bad as initially thought. I'll probably run the numbers in the next day or two on average number of points earned comparing this wager to the standard all in.

I was shocked at first to see the low wager from Matt but thinking about it more, maybe he figures he's unlikely to beat James on FJ (James was 97% on FJ in his original run) or on a tiebreaker buzz, (James was 56% on the buzzer to Matt's 33% in this game.) So maybe roll the dice and hope this is a brutal FJ and he can win it that way. It's a bold move and could have easily backfired but on this occasion it worked out for him.

The format of this tourney certainly affects the calculus. We've got to figure Matt thought it was worth the small wager because he knew he'd at least get one point and possibly three with a miss by James. To make it to the semis you've just got to beat out two players, after all. Avoiding goose eggs is important.

Each player plays seven games in the quarterfinals, right? There are four points available in each game. Figure you're pretty safe if you can at least get the average number of points per game (1 1/3), so that's 9 1/3 over seven. Nine points might get you to semis, but 10 is safer. I guess we'll see where the cut ends up.