Wednesday, May 24, 2023 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

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J! Round

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DJ! Round

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Box score

[theFJguy]

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
CLASSICAL MUSIC

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
When the opera "Lohengrin" premiered in 1850, this man, a future in-law of the composer, was the conductor

Lynn Di Vito: 6400-5000=1400
Ed Petersen: 10400-2401=7999 (New Champ)
Joyce Sun: 10800-10500=300

Correct response:

Spoiler

Franz Liszt (Lynn – Toscanini) (Ed – Haydn) (Joyce – Rachmaninoff)

Daily Doubles
Lynn: 1800-1200
Lynn: 5200-2000
Ed: 4400-1600

Coryats
Lynn: 9600
Ed: 12000
Joyce: 10800

Combined: 32,400

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Lynn: 3200
Ed: 0
Joyce: 5600

[OntarioQuizzer]

Whoever thought putting a video clue in an anagram category was a good idea must strike that idea from their brain and pretend it never existed.

[MarkBarrett]

Whoever thought putting a video clue in an anagram category was a good idea must strike that idea from their brain and pretend it never existed.

There are too many people involved with clues for that to happen. Completely clueless.

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0/6 on wagering clues today.

Ed trailed by a narrow margin and that set him up for the win. Joyce led by a narrow margin and that set her up to be caught by 2nd place on the TS clue.

If Joyce had been in Ed's position I wonder if she would have made the same wager or if she would have fallen below Lynn anyway?

The FJ! clue was pick a name (though not Italian or Russian) and I wrote Schumann. Multiple choice may not have been enough to help me and I was surprised when I checked LL to see I have a .610 in CLASSICAL MUSIC.

[BrigadierSolo13]

Pretty tough FJ if you don't know it, but gosh... none of them were even in the right century!

[MarkBarrett]

Here it is: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7981

[da Doctah]

The FJ! clue was pick a name (though not Italian or Russian) and I wrote Schumann. Multiple choice may not have been enough to help me and I was surprised when I checked LL to see I have a .610 in CLASSICAL MUSIC.

Unless you saw the other movie starring Roger Daltrey and directed by Ken Russell. The one that concerns itself with the two composers and not with the deaf, dumb and blind kid who plays pinball.

[LucarioSnooperVixey]

57 R (NHO Seth MacFarlane comedy.)
DD: 3/3
FJ:

David Beckham a stumper?!?!?

[MarkBarrett]

57 R (NHO Seth MacFarlane comedy.)
...

#8052, aired 2019-09-17 ACTOR-DIRECTORS $1600: As Variety would say, he toplined & helmed 2014's "A Million Ways to Die in the West"
#7452, aired 2017-01-24 A CAMEO APPEARANCE $1200: In "A Million Ways to Die in the West", this actor turns up in a barn next to a DeLorean

[opusthepenguin]

The FJ! clue was pick a name (though not Italian or Russian) and I wrote Schumann.

That's a much better choice than the three we saw. Schumann was German, an exact contemporary of Wagner (both born in 1810) and they knew each other. Wagner was solidly 19th century--born and died in it. Haydn was mostly 18th century, living 9 years into the 19th. Toscanini and Rachmaninoff were born in the 19th century but didn't really get going until the 20th. Even knowing approximate dates makes all three of them less than great as guesses for this FJ.

That said, this was a rough clue. While more knowledge might have helped the contestants make better guesses, you pretty much have to know the fact in question to get this one. Liszt was Wagner's father-in-law (though only a year and a half older). I know this from reading CD booklets and the backs of LPs, but I'm not sure how much of a trivia chestnut it is.

[opusthepenguin]

When Lynn said "What is sarong?" I feel confident Ken would have known to respond "That's-a right!"

I always get this confused. When we name the school by its state and nothing else, that always means University of [State] rather than [State] State University? So "What is Alabama?" meant U. of Alabama, not Alabama State, and Ed was correctly credited?

DD3 was a rough bounce for Ed with a confusing clue about "the measure of the size of the seismic waves". It took me a few seconds to unravel the verbiage and decide that "amplitude" was all they wanted. They were actually going for "magnitude" but I think I would've been ruled correct.

In any event, way to go, Ed! So many contestants in your position would have handed the game to Lynn with a needlessly large wager. So so so so many.

[Golf]

That said, this was a rough clue.

They're always easy if you know 'em. But the archive shows at least 9 hits involving their relationship. That being said, not at all surprised it was a TS.

Personally, I've run across this at least a dozen times over the years. Admittedly, did not know it the first time.


A proper FJ wager from Ed wins the game. Well done.

[Bamaman]

I always get this confused. When we name the school by its state and nothing else, that always means University of [State] rather than [State] State University? So "What is Alabama?" meant U. of Alabama, not Alabama State, and Ed was correctly credited?

The University of Alabama is in Tuscaloosa, the city specified in the answer. Alabama State University is in Montgomery.

No chance for me on FJ. Glad Ben won as he was the fastest at calling for clues.

[Bamaman]

Whoever thought putting a video clue in an anagram category was a good idea must strike that idea from their brain and pretend it never existed.

That and we don’t need three wordplay categories in one day.

[Leander]

On a good day, I might remember the Wagner - Liszt connection, but this was not that day.

[opusthepenguin]

I always get this confused. When we name the school by its state and nothing else, that always means University of [State] rather than [State] State University? So "What is Alabama?" meant U. of Alabama, not Alabama State, and Ed was correctly credited?

The University of Alabama is in Tuscaloosa, the city specified in the answer. Alabama State University is in Montgomery.

Hence, my question.

[OntarioQuizzer]

Whoever thought putting a video clue in an anagram category was a good idea must strike that idea from their brain and pretend it never existed.

That and we don’t need three wordplay categories in one day.

Lots of wordplay is fine—it defends the overall material against those who just flashcard J! Archive, and I'm OK with that.

[econgator]

The FJ! clue was pick a name (though not Italian or Russian) and I wrote Schumann. Multiple choice may not have been enough to help me and I was surprised when I checked LL to see I have a .610 in CLASSICAL MUSIC.

Brahms here.